• I will try this question again if you can't find an answer let me know. I am looking for a pc simulation game that came out in mid to late 1980s,it was a college basketball simulation game called "HOOPS",Billy Packer was involved in it again the name was "HOOPS" college basketball simulation game.


  • Hi goofball! Please take a look at the following Google Groups postings. Jeff Sagarin wrote this game it with the help of Billy Packer http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Jeff+Sagarin%22+hoops+game&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&selm=37334%40cup.portal.com&rnum=1 "Hoops" is a good college basketball simulation game. It has over 1400 teams from 1940 to 1993. Plus you can get an update every year. It's a bit expensive but most good software is expensive anyway. It was designed by Jeff Sagarin, who does the USA Today computer rankings. http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Jeff+Sagarin%22+hoops+game&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&selm=1993Dec17.130116.11633%40gsusgi2.gsu.edu&rnum=8 The contact information in the above postings is out of date and I suggest that you contact Jeff Sagarin directly to inquire about ordering the game. Would current contact information for Jeff Sagarin be a satisfactory answer to your question? Thanks, Bobbie7


  • Hi goofball! According to all the Google Groups postings below Jeff Sagarin is the author of the basket ball simulation game Hoops. Mr Sagarin's current email address is: jsagarin@attglobal.net I obtained this information from Jeff Sagarin?s homepage. Jeff Sagarin's Home Page (A link to his email is provided at the bottom of the page) http://www.kiva.net/~jsagarin/ Jeff Sagarin's Sports Ratings (A link to his email is provided at the bottom of the page) http://www.kiva.net/~jsagarin/sports/sports.html Jeff Sagarin's College Basketball Ratings (A link to his email is provided at the bottom of the page) http://www.kiva.net/~jsagarin/sports/cbsend.htm Jeff Sagarin's power ratings index (at USA Today) This USA Today page provides a link to Mr. Sagarin?s website. http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin.htm About Jeff Sagarin ?Jeff Sagarin has been providing power ratings and player ratings to USA TODAY since 1985. A mathematics graduate of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and MBA from Indiana University in 1983, Sagarin has applied his unique ranking system to college football, college basketball, Major League Baseball, pro football, pro basketball, pro hockey, volleyball, nascar, soccer and several other sports.? http://www.kiva.net/%7Ejsagarin/p2wjeff.htm Here are a number of Google Group postings discussing this game. Jeff Sagarin wrote this game it with the help of Billy Packer http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Jeff+Sagarin%22+hoops+game&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&selm=37334%40cup.portal.com&rnum=1 "Hoops" is a good college basketball simulation game. It has over 1400 teams from 1940 to 1993. Plus you can get an update every year. It's a bit expensive but most good software is expensive anyway. It was designed by Jeff Sagarin, who does the USA Today computer rankings. http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Jeff+Sagarin%22+hoops+game&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&selm=1993Dec17.130116.11633%40gsusgi2.gsu.edu&rnum=8 The best pure baskeball sim I've played is "Hoops." It was developed by Jeff Sagarin, the fellow famous for his college football and basketball power ratings, which USA Today publishes. I'm not sure is he is still updating the game (he was a couple of years ago) but even if you get an old version of the game, it's great for tournament replays." (. . .) "You should be able to contact Jeff through the USA Today Web site.? http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Jeff+Sagarin%22+hoops+game&start=10&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&selm=34C2C4A0.B99F41BD%40ix.netcom.com&rnum=11 ?Computer ratings were devised by Jeff Sagarin, a 1970 Massachusetts Institute of Technology mathematics graduate and co-author of a computer basketball game called HOOPS.? http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Jeff+Sagarin%22+hoops+game&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&selm=3294%40kepler.sw.mcc.com&rnum=5 ?The best text basketball sim ever was Hoops. It still may be available from Jeff Sagarin, its creator. Works great out of an MS-DOS window. Not exactly user friendly setting up seasons and tournaments, but once you understand how that works, the game is excellent. Nothing is even close. Comes in pro and college game.? http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Jeff+Sagarin%22+hoops+game&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&selm=364E834A.1F83077B%40ix.netcom.com&rnum=10 ?For college basketball, there's nothing that compares to SOM's pro game. I currently only own HOOPS, which I got with 1400 teams! It uses Jeff Sagarin's power ratings to rate teams. It's great for setting up tournaments, and letting the pc quick-play them, but is awfully tedious to run a full season with. There are very few options, coaching-wise. Also, players are rated in various categories, but all that's accessible to the coach is a list of ratings relative to the rest of the team.? http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Jeff+Sagarin%22+hoops+game&start=10&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&selm=34c268ec.23758228%40news.cdc.net&rnum=14 ?Hoops -- a game developed by Jeff Sagarin and Billy Packer -- is the best simulation game I know of for the IBM-PC. It's a game that's totally based on statistics.? http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22Jeff+Sagarin%22+hoops+game&start=10&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&selm=1992Jan22.175329.14053%40ux1.cso.uiuc.edu&rnum=17 Search strategy at Google Groups: Hoops simulation game +basketball http://groups.google.com/groups?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&q=Hoops+simulation+game+%2Bbasketball I hope this is helpful! Best regards, Bobbie7


  • Yes Bobby 7 if you could provide me some contact information for Mr. Sagarin(perhaps a website or e-mail address I will contact him directly . Thanks so much







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